A comparative look at NASCAR's new spoiler, old spoiler, and wing (Updated NASCAR 101 Style)
by 4ever3 on Jul 10, 2010 1:14 AM EDT
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PrintThis whole NASCAR 101 stuff has got me thinking about things differently, including re-thinking this article I wrote a few months ago. In it I compared NASCAR's new spoiler to the CoT spoiler and to the pre-CoT spoiler with a NASCAR Canadian Tire Series spoiler thrown in for good measure.
Well I've now included a NASCAR graphic about the spoiler for your info. If clicking on the graphic does not make it larger then click on the following web-based link to view the larger image.
Graphic courtesy NASCAR
Credit: Jason Smith/Getty ImagesOn Thursday in Concord, N.C., NASCAR announced a significant change to the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series’ new car, including replacing the wing currently mounted on the rear of the car with a spoiler.
It looks like the braces offer up no chance for adjustment at all, which means every car will have the same angle of spoiler. It also is flat across the top where as the old spoiler was concave in shape.
Compare the above image with the old version of the spoiler below.
Credit: Bob Ellis (NASCAR Ranting and Raving)
The spoiler of the #42 car driven by Juan Montoya at MIS Aug. 2007.
Now compare the above spoiler pictures with the CoT's spoiler pictured below.
Credit: Bob Ellis (NASCAR Ranting and Raving)
Rear spoiler of the #6 car driven by David Ragan at MIS in Aug of 2007.
It is the absence of the side plates on the CoT's rear wing in heavy traffic that concerns me about the rear spoiler.
Listen I'm no areo-engineer but wouldn't the absence of the side plates allow any car coming up and side drafting another car near its rear quarter take too much air off of the new spoiler causing it to lose down force making the car too loose; especially in the corners where the down force provided by the spoiler is much needed?
I guess that is why they have put in the rear deck fin (see 'A' in the NASCAR Graphic) otherwise known as the shark fin by the drivers, but it is only on the driver's side, what about the right side? Is it needed there? I don't know but I'm sure we'll find out as the year goes on.
Oh and for another comparison here is a shot of the spoilers that are run in the NASCAR Canadian Tire Series. Note how similar they are to the proposed new one and the old one - kind of a combination of them both.
Credit: Bob Ellis (NASCAR Ranting and Raving)
Spoilers run in the NASCAR Canadian Tire Series taken at the 2010 Canandian Motorsports Expo.
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I agree with your train of tought about making the cars to lose but I'm excited about the change
I’m a firm believer that a race with all cars fighting a lose condition is much more entertaining than a race where alll the cars are fighting a tight condition like they always seemed to be with the wing version of the COT. A lose car means that that it’s up to the driver to hang on and see how far he wants to push it where as with a thight car you are just kind of stuck with what you have and can’t take a risk of being aggressive even if you wanted to. I think this change will put some control back into the drivers hands. Or at least I hope so.
"Baseball games are like snowflakes, no two are ever alike." - W. P. Kinsella
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 23, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions
Having a loose car is one thing ...
but having one go loose on you suddenly is another and that is what I’m worried about. Personally I’d rather drive a loose car than a tight one, but if you are in the corner with a loose car and then it suddenly breaks free because of someone taking air off your spoiler you are no longer the driver just the passenger.
I think this will make the racing more interesting though.
Now it becomes a game of how far do you want to push it for both the driver on the track and for the crew chief in adjusting the car. You’ve got to get as close to that line as possible without going over it. Some will push too far and wreck, while others may not push far enough and run mediocre. I can’t wait to see who handles this challenge best.
"Baseball games are like snowflakes, no two are ever alike." - W. P. Kinsella
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Although it will porbably be Jimmie Johnson and the 48 team.......
again :-)
"Baseball games are like snowflakes, no two are ever alike." - W. P. Kinsella
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
They have both shown they can do it in the first 26 races but not in the Chase
"Baseball games are like snowflakes, no two are ever alike." - W. P. Kinsella
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 25, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
when i saw that video for that one story that 4ever3 posted with the original spoilers testing
I couldn’t get a good look at the car so it looked stubby and when I look at these cars I know that they look like the actual cars so that’s good as long as they don’t look like mini limos we’er good. RhodeIslandRoxfan, Johnson is at his end, this time it’s gonna be Jeff Gordon returning to his former glory
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