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Jimmie Johnson and the Boo-Birds


I've been on multiple SBNation blogs for a while now.  So I'm not sure if this should have been a FanPost or FanShot... but if I can gather my thoughts enough, I think I may be able to make it worthwhile either way.

As many of you who watched tonight's festivities surely noticed... Jimmie Johnson received arguably one of the more passionate responses during a couple of occasions this evening.  Let's look at why after the jump.

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Driver Intros:

Many drivers received the usual and expected fan reaction.  Cheers for Junior and other lovables... mild jeers for some.  However, the most significant audible response I heard was for Jimmie Johnson.  It was next to impossible not to hear the eruption of boos that broke out when he was introduced.  He put his hands up and you could almost see a look of confusion come across his face for a second.  A look that said to me "Boos?  Seriously?  What more do I need to do to get you people to like me?"

This poses an interesting question.  What DOES he need to do to turn those boos into the cheers he probably expects as the reigning and dominant Champion?

I think the only answer here is for him to lose.  As long as NASCAR fans see him as the privileged New York Yankees of our sport, the cheers may be hard to find.  Hendrick Motorsports is clearly the king of stock car racing... and there are many, many fans who, across the board, cheer for the Hendricks crew.  But are even these fans feeling some frustration with the 48?

It's hard to tell.  I don't consider myself a jaded NASCAR fan.  I am perfectly familiar with the dominance of Petty, Earnhardt, Gordon, etc. in the past... but this Jimmie thing just feels different to me.

Even Kyle Busch, the man everyone loves to hate, seemed to turn the crowd a little his way with his team's bow and the kid that accompanied him on stage tonight during the driver intros.

The Wreck:

When the 48 wrecked  and collected enough grass to sod my yard late in the race, the crowd absolutely erupted in cheers.  The intros were not the anomaly.  The fans LOVED to see auto racing's most dominant figure out of the running tonight. 

I usually make a Daytona race or two every year, and watch nearly every race on TV (although I rarely catch the driver intros), but I can't put my finger on when the tide truly changed in the fans' minds towards Jimmie Johnson.

Sure, this topic has been beaten to death... but I just wanted to take a look at why and when the hostility towards the 48 began.  And the fan reactions at the All Star Race tonight made it relevant in my mind again.  Will JJ embrace his newfound, and mostly unearned villainy.. causing us to tune in just to make sure he doesn't win? (Similar to people who buy Floyd Mayweather Jr PPV's in hopes that they'll finally see someone shut him up)  Or will he continue to just be the guy that is SO good, so well rounded, and so well equipped that a race he doesn't win almost feels weird?

The biggest factor for me, is that in such an individual sport, where we all have our driver(s) of choice... we just want that feeling every week that our driver has a CHANCE to win.  Sometimes Jimmie's excellence takes this feeling away.

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Johnson comes off as very arrogant. And privilaged. He’s also a bit of a Hendrick Robot. Using canned answers and not showing much emotion. People love/hate Stewart, Busch, and Harvick because what you see is what you get. They seem like guys who you would see in public. Johnson didn’t do much in the Nationwide Series to really earn the Hendrick ride, and he doesn’t come across as a guy who really feels like he is lucky to win anything. He comes off as a “of course I won, I’m the best”. It’s the same reason people don’t like Kyle. He’s the same way, but with a more open personality. He’s not a robot.

by Troy J. on May 23, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the problem with Johnson is that he’s dominate but doesn’t have a personality. 3 and Petty were both dominate on the race track but also had dominated personalities that fans loved.

Like Troy. J said, Johnson comes off like a robot. I’ve listened to several of his interviews on the Jim Rome Show and there is nothing there. He’s colorless.

I also believe fans are just worn out by the guy. He’s won so much the past four years that I think people just want to see a new champion. I’m kind of meh on the guy myself and I’m from California like him. He’s definitely the Jeff Gordan of the past five years.

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by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the responses

I was hoping my article would get some conversation going.

I think both of you are spot on. Even during the Showtime special on JJ leading up to the 500… nothing there. Just nothing to latch on to at all.

I think another part of it may be that he’s not a guy that any of us really followed too closely as he came up through ARCA/Truck/Nationwide/etc. like some others out there.

by Hatfield on May 23, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He's basically a cog of a wheel in a well oiled machine.

They may seem robotic because they’re just “performing their duties” but the way that team is set up, there’s not a lot of room for emotions. It’s all business. All the time. Look at his crew chief, they’re mirror images of one another. They know how to win, they know what it takes to win, they never lose sight of that. Everything else is secondary. Even the private side of their lives is kept to an absolute minimum because it might interfere with the process of winning.

"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."

by Benthere on May 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I love it when they interview Max Papis, because he seems so happy to even have a chance to race. We like it when drivers remind us that it was a set of improbable events that led them to be a NASCAR driver. It’s good to see a guy act like he is lucky to be there. Not like he belongs there.

by Troy J. on May 24, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Great post Hatfield

I think the biggest reason why fans cheer agaisnt Jimmie is because they know that if he’s out of the race the chances of their favorite driver winning the race will skyrocket because the #48 team is such a dangerous threat.

This has been the case in Nascar for as long as I can remember. Dale Earnhardt and Jeff Gordon were more loudly and lustily when they were winning than Jimmie ever has. It really comes down to a point where people are looking for a reason to hate him but really can’t find a great one and just boo him anyway.

I will say this though. It would be better for the sport if there was a really good reason to hate Jimmie Johnson. The best thing that can happen to Nascar is to have a driver that almost everyone hates dominate because it causes even the casual fan to get up in arms about wanting this driver to fail. With Jimmie I think it’s only the diehards who detest his winning. Imagine the passion all fans would show if someone like Kyle Busch who embraces the role of being the villain won a couple of championships in a row. It’s an interesting dynamic that Nascar fans have to think about.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on May 24, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I was at the race, it was funny listening to the boos. I dunno why but I always laugh at the boo birds for Jimmie, Kyle, etc.

When I realized it was the 48 that spun, I clapped, not so much because he spun but because I knew the yellow was out and that was one less guy Joey Logano, who I was pulling for, would have to deal with.

There was a TON of cheering around me though, especially when he drove by us on the backstretch all by himself.

by A_Rosser14 on May 24, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Vanilla

Johnson’s biggest problem, I think, is he doesn’t really have much of a personality. While I wouldn’t go as far as to call him a Hendrick Robot, he doesn’t really have the kind of attitude that’s generally associated with big time winners, in any sport. Yeah, he smiles nice, says the right things, but who cares? Where’s the passion? Fire? Ass kicking attitude?

I’d like to point out that, say, Peyton Manning is similar in that regard. He doesn’t go off half cocked in front of cameras, tows the company line, says all the right things in press conferences. But, Manning doesn’t have hundreds of pounds of metal separating him from his viewing audience. And I think, in that way, drivers have to work a little harder to connect with their fan base. Does Johnson try? Sure. Does he have the goods to cultivate that personality? I don’t think so, and that probably is where the Hendrick machinery takes over…

Besides, winning, all the time, is one thing. But if you’re just non-chalant about the whole mess, as if it is just second nature, then, well, that can piss people off. Winning should be special, no matter how many times you’ve done it.

Personally, I don’t hate on the guy for being a winner. My father seems to think there’s a NASCAR conspiracy to get the guy in the winners circle. I don’t think that way, really, but it does get old after a while.

I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work ... I suspect its a bit like fucking, which is only fun for amateurs. -Hunter Thompson

by RockyRippleColtsFan on May 24, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Manning has Charisma, and a great sense of humor to help him

Johnson is much like Tom Brady. Neither really comes off as an everyman. You can’t see Johnson sitting back drinking a Miller after a tough race. We see him heading back into his mansion and sipping expensive wine. He’s probably not doing either, but that’s the way we see him. He’s the California Kid. The upper crust. All drivers are rich, but you feel like you could be friends with a lot of them. Most of us have gone into the pits of a local race and met the local drivers. Matt Kenseth and Kyle Busch come up and race at Madison almost every year. Stewart races just about everywhere. These are the guys who people relate to. It’s the presumption that Johnson would never race at a local track because it’s below him. But he’s most likely not able to because of his contract. That’s why Kyle Busch was happy to go to Gibbs, becuase it meant he could race in just about everything.

by Troy J. on May 25, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

“Stewart races just about everywhere. These are the guys who people relate to. It’s the presumption that Johnson would never race at a local track because it’s below him.”

Very good point, and another reason why I love Tony.

I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work ... I suspect its a bit like fucking, which is only fun for amateurs. -Hunter Thompson

by RockyRippleColtsFan on May 25, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Post! (and comments too!)

I’ve got a lot to say about this, well too long for a comment anyway. I was going to write something about this last night but I got distracted by Earnhardt going to Childress story! I’ll try and post it tonight.

by 4ever3 on May 26, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m writing from the other end of the spectrum – as a Jimmie Johnson fan. I think most of the comments are wrong about Jimmie. For one thing, he probably started out as one of the poorest of the current drivers. He grew up in a trailer and his parents were blue collar. He struggled all the way in his career until he reached Cup. For another thing, he is actually something of a carouser in his off time, definitely not the type to sit around and sip fine wine. He is reserved when he has a microphone stuck in his face so that part is probably true. And I think he is single-minded about winning championships and mostly confines himself to Cup, although he does race the Rolex and Prelude to a Dream. But tell me how many NASCAR drivers have won a Cup championship while also running NW and/or trucks? Even Kyle is giving up trying to run full-time in NW this year to concentrate on the Cup championship. Yes, the team is very professional but look where that has got them. If that turns fans off, then I guess they are willing to pay that price. Lastly, Jimmie does tons of charity things. Concerts for USO, paying to build houses that people lost in fires, giving to schools, to sick children, building the bowling alley at Victory Junction Camp. He is a good person and a wonderful representative of his sport. It is ironic that fans can criticize Jimmie for being “superior” and love Dale Junior (of whom I’m also a fan) for being a backwoods good old boy when both perceptions are so wrong. NASCAR Nation should be proud of their champion instead of booing him. He’s never done anything to deserve that kind of disrespect.

by VDEPUTY on May 31, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He's definitely a good dude. I agree

I just wanted to take a look at why NASCAR fans seem to hate their champion.

I honestly can’t explain it either… but I can tell you something inside me HATES when he is leading a race.

by Hatfield on May 31, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at it from a different sport's perspective

In the NHL, when the Edmonton Oilers were winning all the time, fans of other teams hated (and some still do) them. The only people who like having a dynasty in their sport are fans of that team. So figure there are 43 different “teams” in NASCAR. Maybe Johnson’s a little more popular than the average driver. That still only makes what, 4-5, even 10% of the fanbase are Johnson fans? That leaves 90+% of the fans of someone else who don’t like the fact that some other driver wins so many championships. Even if he had 40% of the fans on his side, there’s still 6 out of 10 that root for someone else and don’t like anybody else winning all the time.

Even if Kevin Harvick won 4 championships in a row, people would get tired of it and he’d start getting booed.

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by FrankG929 on Jun 1, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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