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Open Race Thread: NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Gatorade Duel at Daytona | Daytona International Speedway

DAYTONA BEACH FL - FEBRUARY 17:  Ryan Newman driver of the #39 U.S. Army Chevrolet leads the field at the start of the first race of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Gatorade Duel at Daytona International Speedway on February 17 2011 in Daytona Beach Florida.  (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)

Updated: 1:05 p.m. EST - Question and answers from the pre-race drivers meeting.

Weather permitting...

For 10 drivers, Thursday is the most important day of their racing lives.

Today's Gatordade Duel at Daytona will determine the Daytona fates of Kenny Wallace, Dave Blaney, Michael Waltrip, Bill Elliott, Joe Nemechek, J.J. Yeley, Mike Wallace, Robby Gordon, Robert Richardson Jr. and Michael McDowell.

Only four of the 10 will qualify for the Daytona 500.

The other 35 drivers are already locked in, headlined by Duel pole sitters Carl Edwards and Greg Biffle. Assuming both drivers will not go to a backup car, they will start the Daytona 500 on the front row regardless of where they finish.

Positions 3-43 are yet to be decided, laying the foundation for an exciting mix of drivers racing for their Daytona lives and those hoping to build momentum for Sunday's Daytona 500.

For fans, Thursday is about maximizing your value. There are two races at a combined 350 miles, with the added bonus of big pack racing, and no event on the schedule holds more excitement or anticipation as the Gatorade Duel at Daytona.

Duel #2

Greg Biffle and Casey Mears will lead the field to the start of Gatorade Duel #2.

Much like teammate Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle will weigh the opportunity to test race conditions versus taking care of his car. The second Duel is traditionally a safer race, a fact not lost on Biffle's team.

Three cars will go to the back of the pack -- Kasey Kahne, for going to a backup car. Bill Elliott and Clint Bowyer will go to the rear of the field for an engine change and failing post-qualifying tech respectively.

Duel #1

Carl Edwards and Dale Earnhardt Jr. will share the front row for the first duel. The Blue Ovals were fastest in single-car runs but have yet to prove they can win in the big Daytona packs. Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been the fastest Chevrolet throughout Speedweeks. What a statement it would be if Earnhardt Jr. could win his Duel and stake an early claim on the Harley J. Earl Trophy.

Danica Patrick will also make her unofficial Sprint Cup debut in her first race for Tommy Baldwin Racing powered by Stewart-Hass. Patrick has proven herself capable of contending for plate race victories. But she hasn't experienced anything quite like the big-pack she'll find herself in today. She rolls off 17th.

Go-or-go-homers in Duel 1 include: Mike Wallace, Robby Gordon, Michael McDowell, and Michael Waltrip.

Weather Permitting

Weather is a concern as a line of showers is passing just north of the track. The storm is projected to miss the speedway but it's worth keeping an eye on. The projected forecast called for a 10% chance of rain.

The Gatorade Duel at Daytona is set to begin at 2 p.m. EST and will be broadcast live on Speed. See you in the comments section!

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Starting Line Up by Row, Daytona International Speedway, Gatorade Duel 1
Provided by NASCAR Statistics - Sun, February 19, 2012 @ 05:03 PM Eastern
Row Pos Car Driver Team
Row 1: 1 99 Carl Edwards Fastenal Ford
Row 1: 2 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Diet Mountain Dew/National Guard Chevrolet
Row 2: 3 9 Marcos Ambrose Stanley Ford
Row 2: 4 6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr.(i) Ford EcoBoost Ford
Row 3: 5 21 ^ Trevor Bayne(i) Motorcraft/Quick Lane Tire&Auto Center Ford
Row 3: 6 14 Tony Stewart Office Depot/Mobil 1 Chevrolet
Row 4: 7 43 Aric Almirola Smithfield Helping Hungry Homes Ford
Row 4: 8 27 Paul Menard Menards/Peak Chevrolet
Row 5: 9 34 David Ragan Scorpion Truck Bedliners Ford
Row 5: 10 22 AJ Allmendinger Shell Pennzoil Dodge
Row 6: 11 2 Brad Keselowski Miller Lite Dodge
Row 6: 12 29 Kevin Harvick Budweiser Chevrolet
Row 7: 13 31 Jeff Burton Caterpillar Chevrolet
Row 7: 14 42 Juan Pablo Montoya Target Chevrolet
Row 8: 15 30 ^ David Stremme Inception Motorsports Toyota
Row 8: 16 1 Jamie McMurray Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Boats Chevrolet
Row 9: 17 10 Danica Patrick(i) GoDaddy.com Chevrolet
Row 9: 18 32 ^ Terry Labonte C&J Energy Ford
Row 10: 19 40 ^ Michael Waltrip AaronsDream Machine Toyota
Row 10: 20 11 Denny Hamlin FedEx Express Toyota
Row 11: 21 98 ^ Michael McDowell No.98 KLOVE/Curb Records Ford Ford
Row 11: 22 83 Landon Cassill Burger King Toyota
Row 12: 23 38 David Gilliland MHP/Power Pak Pudding Ford
Row 12: 24 37 ^ Mike Wallace(i) Poynt.com Ford
Row 13: 25 7 ^ Robby Gordon MAPEI/Menards/SPEED Energy Dodge

Did Not Qualify: None.
Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs
Chevrolet 8 0 Ford 10 0
Dodge 3 0 Toyota 4 0

(i) Ineligible for driver points in this series


Starting Line Up by Row, Daytona International Speedway, Gatorade Duel 2
Provided by NASCAR Statistics - Sun, February 19, 2012 @ 05:03 PM Eastern
Row Pos Car Driver Team
Row 1: 1 16 Greg Biffle 3M Ford
Row 1: 2 13 Casey Mears GEICO Ford
Row 2: 3 24 Jeff Gordon Drive to End Hunger Chevrolet
Row 2: 4 56 Martin Truex Jr. NAPA Auto Parts Toyota
Row 3: 5 55 Mark Martin Aaron Toyota
Row 3: 6 48 Jimmie Johnson Lowe Chevrolet
Row 4: 7 17 Matt Kenseth Best Buy Ford
Row 4: 8 39 Ryan Newman U.S. ARMY/Quicken Loans Chevrolet
Row 5: 9 20 Joey Logano The Home Depot Toyota
Row 5: 10 5 Kasey Kahne Farmers Insurance Chevrolet
Row 6: 11 26 ^ Tony Raines(i) Front Row Motorsports Ford
Row 6: 12 18 Kyle Busch M&M Brown Toyota
Row 7: 13 09 ^ Kenny Wallace(i) American Ethanol Toyota
Row 7: 14 36 ^ Dave Blaney Ollie Bargain Outlet Chevrolet
Row 8: 15 51 Kurt Busch Hendrickcars.com Chevrolet
Row 8: 16 33 Elliott Sadler(i) General Mills/Kroger Chevrolet
Row 9: 17 87 ^ Joe Nemechek(i) AM FM Energy Wood&Pellet Stoves Toyota
Row 9: 18 78 Regan Smith Furniture Row Racing Chevrolet
Row 10: 19 47 Bobby Labonte Kroger Toyota
Row 10: 20 97 ^ Bill Elliott AM FM Energy Wood&Pellet Stoves Toyota
Row 11: 21 93 David Reutimann Burger King Toyota
Row 11: 22 23 ^ Robert Richardson Jr.(i) North Texas Pipe Toyota
Row 12: 23 49 ^ JJ Yeley America Israel Racing Toyota
Row 12: 24 15 Clint Bowyer 5-hour Energy Toyota

Did Not Qualify: None.
Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs
Chevrolet 8 0 Ford 4 0
Dodge 0 0 Toyota 12 0
(i) Ineligible for driver points in this series


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Drivers Meeting:

Kurt Busch asked the meeting’s only question. He wanted clarification about the procedure for getting caught on pit road as the caution comes out.

“If you haven’t reached your stall by time the caution waves, you are permitted to stay on the right side of pit road without having to go to the back of the field. You will, however, lose whatever position you will have lost before the yellow comes out.” – John Darby

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Is this streaming online somewhere?

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by CPC on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Let me see if I can find one!

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

My usual sources don't have them yet. I'll keep looking.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Being at work and on the west coast kinda sucks for me for these races :(

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by CPC on Feb 23, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You're used to this right? You watch United football! You're a pro!

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Most games are televised in the States

The ones that aren’t are REALLY easy to find online. My hookups for that don’t have much in the way of NASCAR streams :(

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by CPC on Feb 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Here you go!

http://www.justin.tv/besweeet9#/w/2655708048

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You're awesome

Thanks!

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by CPC on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlception.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

OK Internet, you win!

Found broadcast on I Heart Radio, got PitCommand going on my laptop & I’m pretending to do some work.

On a side note, I’m about to gouge my eyes out listening to Eli Gold!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

What - you don't like this guy?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ROOOOWWWW TIIIIEEEEE!!!!!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I've relegated myself to this

the stream got shut down :(

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by CPC on Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Gluck tweeted a link to Race Buddy. It’s not perfect, but an option.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet, the streaming radio is about 30 seconds behind twitter & 15 seconds behind PitCommand. Oh well, better than nothing!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Race 1 is intriguing. How will Danica do? Can Mikey not wreck & get into the 500?

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if racing fans will complain about twitter integration everywhere the way wrestling fans do.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

NASCAR's been a lot more subtle about it.

We can make this a topic when we get the #Danica now trending worldwide graphic.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Green flag - let's rock

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Robby being Robby already.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

He's not on the grass yet.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

But he IS properly failing.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Robby Gordon has unofficially been eliminated from the Daytona 500.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

He's looking for a quick caution.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

And he got it.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Cassill has entered pit road. He’s already locked in. Not worth trashing their mediocre car in return for a bad backup.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Bayne’s being overly aggressive for my tastes.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

JUUUNNNNIIIOOORRR!!!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

WELP. MENARD BEING MENARD.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

Or not.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Three of 25 cars trashed after nine laps. We damaged 23 of 25 in the Bud Shootout. How many cars will we lose today?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

There will be 10 cars NOT involved in a wreck in the 500…

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Please don’t make us look at every single Kenny Wallace reaction face. Please.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Srsly?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

TAPPING.

I WASN’T EXPECTING THAT.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

These pit stops won’t matter. There will be another caution. Edwards would do well by calling it a day.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

He basically said on the radio that he thinks understanding how hard you can push the engine & cars was more important than saving his car.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Jr with pit road penalty

Mildly surprised. Wait, nevermind. LOL

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Too many men over the wall. On the bright side, he should be able to make it the rest of the way.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Too many men over the wall is like the false start in football. it’s a stupid penalty that indicates lack of focus. It happens every race to that team! I don’t get it!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

#SMORES.

#SMORES.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Gilliland and Menard were just trying to hit the target. =(

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

uh, did i accidentally flag a comment? sorry.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

It happens all the time. No worries. It takes more than one.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Phew, good.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I prefer the big packs, I can’t help but recognize how loud these cars are shouting, “I wasn’t meant to race like this!” #scary

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Remember when they were mixing it up every lap for the lead? Yeah, me too. Then everyone said they hated it. Now we get this awesome single-file racing! Wahoo!!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Can't be helped. The two-car tandem was the same way until the final ten laps.

This still beats racing at any intermediate track. Don’t tell me you’ve already forgotten Kentucky.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely the worst of the year.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I still love that facility though - inside the track anyway.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

When tracks as awful as Kentucky can get races, yet Martinsville seems to be constantly endangered…

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

And the best intermediate lost a date - Atlanta..

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Atlanta is one of the best facilities & races, IMO. Sucks that a track not selling all their tickets (in a hard hit part of the country) means NO ONE gets to watch on TV.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

1/2

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

I’d love to see one of the non-automatic-qualifiers win this race. The ultimate win-and-you’re-in scenario.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

I read a rumor on a forum that NASCAR may consider not locking anyone into the Daytona 500 next year. It’s a pipe dream, but could you imagine how important these races would be! They’d have to run the races at night and may get ratings close to the Daytona 500 ratings!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Harvick to all rookies: "Get off me, bro."

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Just tuned in

But I’m tempted to find a portable radio and go sit outside and listen. It’s way to beautiful outside today to be sitting inside in front of a TV.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

the sand is running out of the owl.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

I remember when DW said the same about Reed.

THAT really panned out.

Ugh.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

He wasn’t wrong about Reed’s talent. It’s his attitude that needed shaping.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess. Still, DW’s “he’s got a bright future” endorsement is the kiss of death.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

SI cover jinx?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Eeeeeeeeeeexactly.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I suspect we’ll run single-wide and 2×2 for another 10 laps before ramping it up. First six cars are single file and pulling away a bit.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Like the Shootout. We’ll have 3 laps of good racing & alot of tore up cars & everyone will proclaim it “greatest race ever”

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I approve. =)

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If only we could get pack racing without wrecks. That would be lovely.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hamlin and Ambrose are making their stops.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Ambrose and Hamlin are tandem drafting to avoid going a lap down. It’s working. They can’t stay this way for long though.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, you just brought up another fantastic point!

Everyone says the Tandem is all about luck, blah. Well, You can tandem with 1 other guy & keep from going a lap down. In pack racing, even 3 or 4 cars will likely eventually go a lap down, making it more about luck & less about skill.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

“We apologize for audio difficulties”

No, believe me, I’m THANKING YOU for audio difficulties.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

I nearly laughed Coke out of my nose!

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Another fuel mileage plate race. Remember how the ARCA race played out.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOO IT’S 2003 ALL OVER AGAIN.

NEWMAN’S HIDING FUEL IN HIS ROLLBAR, I SWEAR IT.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ten laps to go. Business is about to pick up – Stewart, Harvick, Stenhouse, Almirola, Jeff Burton

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

GAME OVER MAN. GAME OVER.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Waltrip is in the wall! There's the caution.

DW: Oh my God. What happened? That’s not exactly the DW/MW Daytona call of years past.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

How bad was Waltrip’s wreck? Is it OK for me to LOL?

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Just weird looking. It's a very laughable crash.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like something I’ve done in iRacing before. Of course, that’s in a video game and not a $250,000 car.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s what I did nearly every time I made a stop in Days of Thunder.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, the developers wouldn't have had it any other way.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s good. Hit the unprotected wall, but he was at half speed anyways.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, but I really didn’t want Waltrip OR Kenny in this race. I’d really rather not hear the announce teams kiss their asses all race long Sunday.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

THANK YOU

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Three cars stay out: Stewart, Harvick and Hamlin. How does this play out?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t blame you, Dale. I’d give that ugly thing away for a cookie crumb.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That commercial where he trades his car for a mountain dew.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That car is butt ugly.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The Amp car is light years better.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

WATER U DOIN ARIC

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome save by Jamie Mac!

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

I’m ok with this as a top five.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

……………….WELL THEN.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Danica absolutely nailed the backstretch outside retaining the wall. That was a vicious hit – gave me chillbumps. She’s okay.

Did she even let off the gas — she has a history of staying in it..

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

My face when Danica is shown spinning

MFW that hit though

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

WAIT WRONG GIF FOR THE BOTTOM ONE.

I meant this.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Robby Gordon made the Daytona 500 along with Michael McDowell. We thought the former was done on the opening lap.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Here’s a question for everyone. Danica spun by herself. Granted it was a hard hit but should the caution have come out?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Nah, it was behind everyone, and safety trucks were right there.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

no.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That hit:

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Danica inside the car, haha.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I’m watching a kung fu movie with all this delay.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

SO MANY TECHNICAL PROBLEMS

AHHHHH I can’t take this

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

HERE COMES THE KENNY WALLACE ASSKISS SHOW

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

They can kiss Kenny’s ass all they want. He gave me Bristol tickets last year.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell is Hammond talking about?

I’ve seen a ton of guys let go of the wheel before they hit. That was not something new.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, but can you let go of a wheel if you have MAMMERIES?! THIS IS A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR WOMEN EVERYWHERE. DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND. KENNYMIKEYDANICAKENNYMIKEYDANICA

this is what david hill believes.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Hammond's "beard" is attacking his remaining brain cells.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Implying he had any to begin with.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I personally like Hammond

Just not when he talks

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

In my mind, that just equated Hammond to a supermodel.

And now I’m dying laughing.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

What causes bigger ratings than Danica Patrick in NASCAR & crashing? Danica Patrick crashing in NASCAR. Just wait, FOX will promo the heck out of that crash. You’ll see so many replays of it the next 3 days you’ll want to puke.

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That will be the most discussed moment on ESPN's NASCAR coverage

#garbage

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

RFTT

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No clue what that means! Best I can tell, it means Rocket from the Tomb?? http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RFTT

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I had to Google that one, too

still no clue

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for the truth =)

I hit the rec button.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Robby Gordon:

“Terry gets in on a champions provisional and I don’t agree with that unless he’s still with the original team he won it with. The problem with him getting in is that he’s talking a spot away from a guy who’s fast and who’s team worked really hard.

“But those are the rules and we have to play by it.”

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

I don't entirely disagree with that. Perhaps there should be a ten-year cap on past champions provisional.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t object to this.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's more than fair

and I am as sentimental as anyone

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto. I'm a huge Terry Labonte fan. That championship was nearly 20 years ago. His other title, roughy 30 years ago.

Think about that for a second.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

gah

we’re gettin’ old

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t remind meeeeeee…

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I do. A championships is an amazing accomplishment. You were the best driver over a 10 month season. You deserve to race.

With that being said, I think the whole provisional system as a whole is a sham. NASCAR should be locking in the top 12 drivers from the prior year’s chase, top 12 in current year points & the most recent champion not in that top 12, and that’s all. You want to be guaranteed into a race, make the chase; otherwise, get up on the wheel and make the race. Will that result in Jeff Gordon or Dale Earnhardt Jr missing a race? Highly unlikely, but still some Friday drama every week.

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Robby:

" I have respect for Terry. We’re a small team too. I guess I should have hired Kurt Busch and earned us a free ride too."

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And then Robby’s four fans who aren’t my mother abandon him.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If I get one more ESPN Autos text message update about Danica Patrick

my phone will fly

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

AND THERE IT IS

…but I bluffed

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Feel Good Story

Well, Robby Gordon ruined his feel good story by, well, being Robby Gordon. Said his ride is for sale to anyone who didn’t make the race & wants to buy it. Sad.

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Yeap. Jenna asks, "Wait, Robby. Are you serious?"

His response, “Hell yeah. Have his people call my people.”

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t he looking to sell the entire team itself?

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as far as I know. He just said that many of the Cup crew is also his rally crew. Same operation.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Gordon

He’s my pick for the 2nd dual. Just feels like a Jeff Gordon type of day.

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Yeap. That said, I picked Junior for the first race.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

SADLER,

Elliott.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be cool - and ironic.

After not nabbing a single NNS win last year.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that he wasn't in position a few times

And typical Sadler luck took over

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the Danica crash if you're into this sort of thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_wtzioHXq8I

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

Wait.

How did Casey fucking Mears get THAT good of a spot.

Are you serious.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

This needs to be a quick one.

I have to be at work at 5.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Three cars will go to the back of the pack — Kahne, for going to a backup car. Elliott and Bowyer for an engine change and failed tech session respectively.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Newman and Johnson in a teamup of this year’s best looking cars.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

I kind of dig the new 43 Smithfield Foods car

says the Smithfield, Virginia native

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Samesies. Subpar driver, but the 43’s had at least one nice scheme each year since Reed drove it.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

J.J. Yeley has a problem on lap 6.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Remember how he was toted as the future? Fun times.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of that backmarking the field on Sunday. Ragan too.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ragan, Reutimann, Yeley, Mears, Raines…

I remember Harvick, after he won Bristol in 03, was like “Tony Raines is gonna win a lot of races, in Busch and Cup”. I laughed then. It cracks me harder now.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You make the Raines fall.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tony's press conference is muting the monitors. I don't approve.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

Jeff Gordon is dead set on turning someone this week..

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

HE’S EMBRACED THE HATE.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on Kenny Wallace!!

He needs help right now

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

1/2

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Wallace

Engine feels like it is siezing up

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Huh, Roush has never won a qualifying race at Daytona?

Wow – 24 yrs!

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

OK I liked that Sunoco Commercial

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

The 0.2 second clip from Richmond got me excited for April 28

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

How y'all doing?

Can’t wait for Sunday!

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

GODDAMMIT NAPPA

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

NAPA KNOW HOW NAPA KNOW HOW

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

THERE’S TWO OF THEM NOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY’RE REPRODUCING BY WAY OF SPORING GOD SAVE US ALL

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha sorry. No more. I’ve got to leave for work now anyway. Heading up your way to shoot high school hoops for work.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

MAY YOU AIRBALL EVERYTHING FOR YOUR SINS.

Ahhh, sounds fun though. Take it easy.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

haha not "shoot" like shooting a basketball.

“Shoot” with a camera for Channel 6. If I airball the camera, I might be in trouble.

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by treywilson3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Have fun!

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's so bad.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't like those NAPA Commercials

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Talladega's media room will play PRN during TV commercials - I really miss that right about now.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

Oh the irony of the American Ethanol car having fuel issues.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No drafting partner, means no chance

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Really Larry Mac?

Tell me something that isn’t that obvious next time.

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Oh Boy Larry nailed that one!

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

BEST COMMENTATORS IN THE BUSINESS U GAIZ.

why am i not muting this garbage.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Miss Bob Jenkins, Ned Jarrett and Benny Parsons

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey look, now it’s not a pack AND they can’t tandem. This race is just so perfect for us 2 or 3 tandem lovers! XD

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

When I first saw that commercial I thought Dale Jr was going to kick his buttocks

but then I was disappointed.

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

nah, but like I said, I don’t blame him trading that ugly thing away.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Logono's motor is a-gone-o!

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Pendulum. Making races more fantastical since… whenever I started listening to them.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Oh no another NAPA know how commercial ...

strike that, its just Mikey talking

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

10 2 Go

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

So are they gonna wreck or will they stay clean all the way to the end?

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

I'm thinking they are staying clean to the end

with maybe something happening on the way to the checkers

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t see anything stupid happening this time around.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinkin the same thing

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Regan is gonna go with whoever can take him, not with the same car manufacturer

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Kenseth is gonna go under Regan regardless so he can get that spot, not because The Biff is his teammate

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

COLD.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Cold, but gets the win.

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The Biff, whiffed

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Roush finally wins a Daytona qualifier race

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t help but feel like Biffle pulled out on purpose to help Kenseth.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Upon further review…

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Too many variables at play to consider that.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That was just a cockup on Biff’s part there. I thought he just pulled aside to get Kenseth up there to maybe set up having an instant drafting partner on Sunday, but nope. Just coincidence.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was a more of an effort to keep his spot rather than to help the 17

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Biffle is a doofus. Kenseth is a winner.

Thank guys for not tearing anything up there at the end.

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Man.

Gotta go and pick up the kids – nice hanging with you for the last race. Take Care.

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by 4ever3 on Feb 23, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Going home:

Wallace
Wallace
Waltrip
Yeley
Richardson

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

Moral of story: Don’t have a last name near the bottom of the alphabet if you want to make the Daytona 500. Sorry Weaver!

by jshaunburke on Feb 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And don’t be a Wallace.

Or the future of the sport.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Richard Petty had a statistically better shot at making this race than JJ Yeley. What does this say about the provisional rules?

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to think KYLE Petty had a better chance of making this race than he did.

Yes, Yeley, despite being a nice guy, is now our official buttmonkey around here.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And Elliott

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by MattWeaver on Feb 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Welp, it was fun, guys. Catch you for the truck race?

Also, Matt, I’mma get on that fanpost ASAP.

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by Saiyavenger on Feb 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

THIS ^^^

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